The Five Core Conversations for Couples: A Divorce Lawyer and Therapist’s Guide to Lasting Love
Book Info
- Book name: The Five Core Conversations for Couples
- Author: David Bulitt, Julie Bulitt
- Genre: Self-Help & Personal Development
- Published Year: 2020
- Language: English
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Synopsis
What if you could sit on your front porch at 75, holding your partner’s wrinkled hand, knowing you’ve weathered every storm together? Family therapist Julie Bulitt and her husband David, a divorce lawyer with over 30 years of marriage under their belt, share the blueprint for making that dream a reality. Drawing from their unique professional perspectives—one who helps couples stay together and one who witnesses relationships fall apart—they identify five core conversations every couple must have to build a relationship that lasts. This practical guide combines real-life case studies with actionable advice on maintaining connection, managing finances, and navigating the challenges that derail even the strongest partnerships.
Key Takeaways
- Maintaining connection requires ongoing effort and intentional quality time together, not just the initial spark of romance
- Financial conversations should happen early and focus on mutual understanding rather than equality in spending
- Healthy arguments involve direct communication rather than silent treatment, but some battles aren’t worth fighting
- Small acts of connection—from morning coffee together to supporting each other’s interests—keep relationships thriving
- Believing in your ability to weather storms together strengthens your partnership during difficult times
My Summary
When a Divorce Lawyer and Therapist Team Up
I’ll be honest—when I first picked up this book, I was skeptical. Another relationship book promising to fix everything? But then I noticed something different: it’s written by a married couple where one spouse is a family therapist and the other is a divorce lawyer. Talk about seeing both sides of the coin.
David and Julie Bulitt bring more than 30 years of marriage and decades of professional experience to the table. Julie has spent her career helping couples reconnect and rebuild, while David has witnessed countless marriages crumble in his law office. This unique dual perspective gives the book an authenticity that’s hard to find in typical relationship guides. They’re not just theorizing about what works—they’ve lived it, counseled it, and seen what happens when couples ignore these fundamental conversations.
What struck me most about their approach is how practical it is. There’s no fluff here, no unrealistic expectations about maintaining honeymoon-phase intensity forever. Instead, they focus on five core conversations that serve as building blocks for a relationship that can actually go the distance. And honestly? After reading it, I found myself thinking about my own relationships differently.
The Connection Crisis Nobody Talks About
The first core conversation centers on something we all know matters but rarely prioritize: connection. The authors open with Sarah and Ron, a couple who walked into Julie’s office radiating tension. They sat as far apart as possible, their body language screaming disconnect. The culprit? They hadn’t spent quality time alone together in over a year.
Here’s what hit home for me: Sarah and Ron aren’t unusual. They’re the norm. We live in a culture that glorifies busy. We wear our packed schedules like badges of honor, and somehow, our partners become the last priority on an endless to-do list. We tell ourselves we’ll make time “when things calm down,” but things never calm down. There’s always another project, another kid activity, another obligation.
The Bulitts make a crucial point that many relationship books miss—connection isn’t just about that initial spark or the early dating phase. It’s about ongoing maintenance. Think of it like a garden. You don’t plant seeds, walk away for six months, and expect a thriving garden when you return. Relationships need the same consistent tending.
What I appreciate about their approach is the flexibility. They don’t prescribe one-size-fits-all solutions. Connection looks different for every couple. For some, it’s a weekly dinner date. For others, it’s reading the morning paper together without phones interrupting. It could be supporting your partner’s hobby, even if you don’t share their enthusiasm for fantasy football or pottery classes. The key is finding what works for both of you and doing it consistently.
The Art of Fighting Without Disconnecting
One of the most valuable sections deals with arguments—because let’s face it, conflict is inevitable. The Bulitts emphasize that arguments lead to disconnect, which is the opposite of what we’re building toward. But their advice isn’t to avoid conflict altogether. That’s unrealistic and unhealthy.
Instead, they advocate for direct communication over the silent treatment. I’ve seen this play out in my own life and in friends’ relationships. The cold shoulder might feel satisfying in the moment, like you’re punishing your partner for whatever they did wrong. But it’s relationship poison. It creates distance and resentment, and it prevents actual resolution.
However—and this is important—they also acknowledge that not every battle is worth fighting. Their example really resonated with me: You’re on a road trip. You warned your partner not to drink too much water. They ignored you. Now they desperately need a bathroom stop. You could say “I told you so,” but what would that accomplish? Nothing except creating unnecessary tension.
This wisdom applies to so many situations. Sometimes being right matters less than being kind. Sometimes letting something go preserves the connection you’ve worked hard to maintain. It’s about picking your battles and asking yourself whether speaking up will actually improve the situation or just make you feel momentarily vindicated.
Money: The Conversation Nobody Wants to Have
David Bulitt identifies finances as one of the four main reasons clients end up in his divorce law office. Think about that for a second. Money problems don’t just cause arguments—they end marriages. Yet many couples avoid discussing finances until they’re already in crisis mode.
The Bulitts stress having this conversation as early as possible in a relationship, especially if you and your partner come from different financial backgrounds. And this is huge. The way we’re raised shapes our relationship with money in profound ways. If you grew up in a household where money was scarce and every purchase required careful consideration, you’ll likely be more conservative with spending. If you grew up with financial security and the freedom to buy what you wanted, you might be more relaxed about expenditures.
Neither approach is inherently wrong, but when these different money mindsets collide in a relationship, conflict is almost inevitable. One person sees a purchase as frivolous; the other sees it as a reasonable treat. One person wants to save aggressively for the future; the other wants to enjoy the present. Without explicit discussion and agreed-upon ground rules, these differences create ongoing tension.
Equality Versus Understanding
Here’s where the Bulitts offer advice that challenged my thinking: Stop aiming for equality and aim for mutual understanding instead. This particularly applies when one partner makes a purchase and the other feels entitled to spend an equivalent amount to “keep things fair.”
On the surface, this tit-for-tat approach seems reasonable. But it can wreak havoc on your finances, especially during tight months. More importantly, it misses the point of partnership. Marriage isn’t a transaction where everything needs to balance out perfectly. It’s about understanding each other’s needs and making decisions together.
If your partner needs to buy something—whether it’s new work clothes, a hobby-related purchase, or something for their mental health—the question shouldn’t be “Well, what do I get?” It should be “Do we have room in our budget for this? Is this important to you?” That shift from scorekeeping to genuine understanding changes the entire dynamic.
I think this applies beyond just purchases too. It’s about moving away from transactional thinking in general. Relationships suffer when we start tallying who did more dishes, who initiated date night last, or who made the bigger sacrifice. Understanding and supporting each other creates a much stronger foundation than constantly trying to ensure perfect equality.
What Makes This Book Different
The relationship advice genre is crowded, to put it mildly. Walk into any bookstore and you’ll find shelves packed with books promising to transform your love life. So what makes this one worth your time?
First, the dual professional perspective is genuinely valuable. Julie’s therapeutic background provides the framework for healthy relationship dynamics, while David’s experience as a divorce lawyer offers cautionary tales about what happens when couples ignore warning signs. They’re not just telling you what to do—they’re showing you what happens when you don’t.
Second, the case studies feel real. Sarah and Ron aren’t composite characters designed to illustrate a point. They’re representative of actual couples Julie has worked with. This grounding in reality makes the advice feel applicable rather than theoretical. You can see yourself in these stories, which makes the lessons more impactful.
Third, the book acknowledges that maintaining a relationship is work. It doesn’t promise easy fixes or suggest that true love conquers all without effort. This honesty is refreshing in a genre that often oversimplifies complex relationship dynamics.
Comparing Approaches
If you’re familiar with relationship literature, you might compare this to books like “The Seven Principles for Making Marriage Work” by John Gottman or “Hold Me Tight” by Sue Johnson. Those are both excellent, research-backed resources. Gottman’s work is particularly strong on identifying destructive patterns, while Johnson focuses on attachment theory and emotional bonding.
The Bulitts’ approach is less academic and more accessible. Where Gottman dives deep into research findings and Johnson explores psychological theory, the Bulitts keep things practical and conversational. This makes their book an excellent starting point for couples who want actionable advice without wading through dense research literature.
That said, the book would benefit from more concrete examples and strategies. Some readers have noted that it leans heavily on the authors’ personal experiences without providing enough varied case studies or step-by-step guidance for specific situations. If you’re dealing with a particular relationship challenge—infidelity, blended family issues, or major life transitions—you might need to supplement this book with more specialized resources.
Applying These Conversations to Real Life
Reading relationship advice is one thing. Actually implementing it is another. So how do you take these five core conversations and integrate them into your daily life?
Start with connection. This week, schedule one activity with your partner that’s just for the two of you. It doesn’t need to be elaborate or expensive. Coffee together before the kids wake up. A walk around the neighborhood after dinner. The point is intentional, distraction-free time together. Put it on your calendar like you would any other important appointment, because it is.
For the money conversation, set aside time to review your finances together. This isn’t about judgment or blame—it’s about getting on the same page. Discuss your financial goals, your concerns, and your spending priorities. If you come from different financial backgrounds, share those experiences. Help your partner understand why you react to money the way you do.
Practice better arguing. Next time you’re upset with your partner, resist the urge to go silent or passive-aggressive. Instead, say directly what’s bothering you. Use “I feel” statements rather than accusations. And before you speak, ask yourself: Will saying this improve the situation or just make me feel momentarily better? If it’s the latter, consider letting it go.
Support your partner’s interests, even if you don’t share them. If your partner loves something—whether it’s a sport, a hobby, or a TV show you find boring—show interest. Ask questions. Encourage them. This isn’t about pretending to like what they like; it’s about valuing what matters to them.
Finally, believe in your relationship’s resilience. When challenges arise—and they will—remind yourself and your partner that you can handle this together. That belief becomes self-fulfilling. Couples who trust in their ability to weather storms are more likely to actually survive those storms.
The Limitations Worth Noting
While I found this book valuable, it’s not without limitations. The focus on the authors’ personal marriage and Julie’s client experiences means the examples can feel somewhat narrow. Every relationship is different, shaped by cultural background, family history, personality types, and countless other factors. What worked for the Bulitts or for Sarah and Ron might not translate directly to your situation.
The book also doesn’t delve deeply into more serious relationship challenges. If you’re dealing with addiction, abuse, infidelity, or major mental health issues, you’ll need more specialized support than this book provides. It’s designed for couples who want to strengthen a fundamentally healthy relationship, not for those navigating crisis situations.
Additionally, some readers might find the advice too basic if they’re already well-versed in relationship literature. If you’ve read extensively in this genre or have done couples therapy, some of the concepts will feel familiar. The book serves better as an introduction or refresher than as advanced relationship training.
Questions Worth Considering
As you think about applying these concepts to your own relationship, consider: What does connection look like for you and your partner specifically? Not what it “should” look like according to movies or social media, but what actually makes you both feel close and valued?
And here’s a tougher question: What conversations have you been avoiding with your partner? Money? Division of household labor? Intimacy? Future plans? The conversations we avoid often become the issues that create the biggest problems down the road. What would it take to start having those conversations now, before they become crises?
Building Your Front Porch Future
The image that opens the book—sitting on your front porch at 75, holding your partner’s wrinkled hand, knowing you’ve made it—is powerful. It’s a goal worth working toward. But as the Bulitts make clear, getting there requires more than luck or compatible personalities. It requires ongoing effort, honest conversation, and consistent maintenance of your connection.
What I appreciate most about this book is its realistic optimism. Yes, relationships are work. Yes, you’ll face challenges. Yes, you’ll have moments where you wonder if it’s worth it. But with the right tools and commitment, you can build something that lasts. Something that weathers storms and grows stronger over time.
The five core conversations aren’t magic formulas. They’re frameworks for ongoing dialogue. They’re reminders that the strongest relationships are built on honesty, understanding, and intentional connection. Whether you’ve been together for three months or 30 years, these conversations matter.
I’d love to hear your thoughts on this. What does maintaining connection look like in your relationship? What conversations do you find most challenging to have with your partner? Drop a comment below and let’s talk about it. After all, we’re all trying to figure out this relationship thing together, and there’s value in sharing our experiences and learning from each other.
Here’s to building relationships that last—one conversation at a time.
Further Reading
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/50191752-the-five-core-conversations-for-couples
https://thebulitts.com/book/
https://www.bethanybeachbooks.com/non-fiction/five-core-conversations-for-couples-david-julie-bulitt
